Japanese brands are getting more and more popular in the West.
More home cooks are weighing up the advantages of having a quality, Japanese influenced knife instead of a western-style chef’s knife.
Two great brands people are often deciding between are the Japanese brand Shun and the German brand Messermeister.
They both produce quality knives, which then begs the question, which one would suit your needs best?
In this article, I’m going to tell you the differences between these two great brands. I’ll go in-depth into the details of each, talking about where they are made, what materials are used and the difference in price.
This article should provide all the information you need to select the right knife for your needs.
For those who are looking for a super sharp knife with a Japanese influenced design then Shun knives are a fantastic choice. For those with busy family kitchens, the durability and familiarity of a Messermeister knife would probably be preferable.
| My recommendation | Current price |
| Shun Classic 8-Inch | View on Amazon (opens new tab) |
| Messermeister Oliva Elite 8-Inch | View on Amazon (opens new tab) |
Shun vs Messermeister – Comparison Table
Here is my summary comparison table for each brand. This is mostly based on their main range of knives; the Shun Classic and the Messermeister Meridian Elite.
For a more in-depth look at each category then check out the rest of the article below.
| Category | Shun | Messermeister |
| Country of Manufacture | Japan | Germany |
| Steel type | VG-MAX | X50CrMoV15 (1.4116) |
| Rockwell hardness | HRC 61 | HRC 57 |
| Factory edge | 16 degrees (double bevel) | 15 degrees (double bevel) |
| Handle material | Pakkawood (wood/resin composite) | POM (thermoplastic) |
| Price range | $160 – $180 (Classic) | $150 – $170 (Meridian Elite) |
| Main benefit | Sharper | More durable |
| My recommendation | Shun 8-Inch Classic (view on Amazon) | Messermeister 8-Inch Meridian Elite (view on Amazon) |
Shun vs Messermeister – Where are they made
| Brand | Country of manufacture |
| Shun | Japan |
| Messermeister | Germany |
All Shun knives are manufactured in the Japanese city of Seki.
Seki is known as the knife capital of Japan, with a population of only 90,000 it lies around 150 miles from Toyoko but is the central hub for all of Japan’s major knife manufacturers.
Shun knives are designed with a Japanese influence but to suit the demands of the Western market, with a larger focus on durability compared with other Japanese brands.
Messermeister Knives are produced in the German city of Solingen, where they have been produced since their launch in 1985.
Messermeister is German for Knife (Messer) Maser (Meister), they have always had a focus on innovative design whilst still being influenced by German classics.
Bernd Dressler, the founder of Messermeister was the first western knife maker to introduce a bolsterless heel to his knife range, a trend that is found throughout western knives today.
Both of these brands produce their knives in the traditional heartlands of their heritage, an added bonus for anyone looking for a genuine Japanese or German knife.
Shun vs Messermeister – What steel do they use
The steel used in knives will often change depending on which range you pick.
Here I’m going to focus on the most popular range for both Shun and Messermeister knives.
They actually use the same steel, there is just a slight variation in hardness, most likely due to the way the steel is treated during manufacture.
| Brand | Steel type | Rockwell hardness |
| Shun Classic | VG-MAX | HRC 61 |
| Messermeister Meridian Elite | X50CrMoV15 (1.4116) | HRC 57 |
The Shun Classic range uses their own Japanese steel VG-MAX. Not all Shun knives are made from VG-MAX, it’s their own specially formulated steel with the aim of VG-MAX being an improvement on the (already very good) VG-10 steel.
VG-MAX is a fantastic steel. It’s been made with a Japanese influence in mind but also with a strong focus on appealing Western markets.
That means it’s got a fantastic balance between strength and durability.
We can see why when we look at VG-MAX’s levels of Carbon, Vanadium and Chromium.
This is a high-Carbon steel, with a Carbon content of 1.1%. Often, such a high Carbon steel will be more prone to chips in the blade. As materials become harder they usually become more brittle; however, that’s not quite the case for VG-MAX.
To understand why we’ll look at the Vanadium content first. It’s pretty high, at 0.3%, that’s not as high as the Messermeister’s X50CrMoV15 Vanadium content but for a high Carbon blade it compares very well.
As a result VG-MAX is more resistant to wear than most other high Carbon steels.
The Chromium content is higher than X50CrMoV15 at 16%. That makes VG-MAX one of the best stainless steel on the market at resisting rust.
Those two factors make this a very durable high Carbon steel.
The Messermeister’s X50CrMoV15 steel will still be more durable than the VG-MAX, simply because its Carbon content is so much lower. However, Shun has done a fantastic job of creating a high Carbon knife that is still very durable.
Messermeister uses X50CrMoV15. This is a German steel that is used for the majority of Messermeister knives.
It’s popular steel amongst producers of quality western-style knives. That’s because it has a particular focus on durability, whilst retaining enough strength for a sharp edge.
The main elements of interest within X50CrMoV15’s composition are Carbon, Vanadium and Chromium.
The Carbon content is 0.55%. That’s not particularly high when comparing it with other quality knives; however, it’s high enough to provide sufficient strength in the blade for a 15 – 20 degree angle on each side, which is standard for western knives.
The big benefit of not having a very high Carbon content is that higher Carbon steels are usually more brittle, therefore the 0.55% content keeps the blade durable.
That’s the same with the strong Vanadium of 0.4%, Vanadium improves the resistance to wear of the steel also adding to its durability.
The Chromium content is 15% is what the 15 in X50CrMoV15 represents. Chromium is vital for the durability of steel as it’s what makes stainless steel resistant to rust.
Steel need only be 10.5% to be considered stainless, so a 15% content is high and makes this a quality stainless steel, very unlikely to rust unless extremely mistreated by the owner.
One of the main differences between the Shun’s VG-MAX steel and Messermeister’s X50CrMoV15 steel is that X50CrMoV15 has been made with a very strong focus on durability, whereas VG-MAX is focused on hardness, allowing for a finer edge.
The big difference in Carbon content is clear when we look at the comparative Rockwell Hardness (HRC).
The Shun Classic knives have a much higher HRC than the Messermeister, standing at 61 compared with 57.
That hardness is reflected in their sharpness, which is what we’ll look at next.
Shun vs Messermeister – How sharp are they
Once again I’m going to focus on the most popular knives from each brand for this comparison.
You will experience a far sharper edge using Shun knives than Messermeister knives due to the steel of the Shun knives being much harder.
| Brand | Factory edge | Rockwell hardness |
| Shun Classic | 16 degrees (double bevel) | HRC 61 |
| Messermeister Meridian Elite | 15 degrees (double bevel) | HRC 57 |
Sharpness is vital when looking for a knife, but in this case, there’s a bit more to it than just looking at which knife has the smallest angle of its edge.
Usually, the smaller the angle the sharper the blade. However, there are other considerations that are particularly important when comparing these two knives.
Harder knives will hold a sharper edge for longer. The Shun uses much harder steel than the Messermeister.
Shun use their own Japanese steel and that tends to have a focus on hardness, in order to create a sharper edge.
So, even though Messermeister knives are made with a similar factory edge of 15 degrees, the Shun knife will actually hold its edge for much longer.
That results in a significantly sharper blade that needs to be sharpened far less often.
Shun vs Messermeister – What are the handles made from
The material used for handles is a vital and often overlooked feature of any knife.
A quality handle is often the sign of a quality overall knife. Handles need to be made from a durable material that can withstand all the heat and moisture fluctuations knives can experience in the kitchen.
Once again we’ll focus on the two main ranges from each brand, the Shun Classic and Messermeister Meridian Elite.
| Brand | Handle material |
| Shun Classic | Pakkawood (wood/resin composite) |
| Messermeister Meridian Elite | POM (thermoplastic) – Although other Messermeister ranges use stunning timber for the handle |
Shun use a wood/resin composite called Pakkawood for their knife handles.
Pakkawood is extremely common in knife handles for quality Japanese knives, although many non-Japanese knife manufacturers around the world have begun to use it as well.
Pakkawood is a great material for knife handles, it’s more dense and durable than real timber. That means it’s more resistant to wear and tear and won’t crack over time as timber handles might.
The versatility of design also makes it a popular choice, it can be dyed all sorts of colors and will often give the appearance of a true wood finish.
Pakkawood is very resilient to temperature and moisture changes and makes a terrific material of choice, it also adds to the Japanese influence of the knife with Pakkawood being a popular Japanese knife handle material.
Messermeister use a thermoplastic material called POM (Polyoxymethylene) for their Meridian Elite knife handles.
Although, it is worth mentioning that Messermeister use some very attractive timbers for their other ranges such as Royale Elite (American Walnut) and Oliva Elite (Olive Wood) that are exquisitely beautiful.
But for now, let’s focus on POM as that is used by their main range. Materials like these are ideal for knife handles due to their extreme durability.
POM is specifically designed for high stiffness and stability, and being a thermoplastic means it’s also extremely resistant to temperature and moisture changes.
It’s a fantastic material to use for knife handles, that will undergo all sorts of pressures and it makes sense to use this material for your main range, which is usually your more practical range.
However, as I’ve mentioned above, Messermeister in particular has some stunning handles in their other collections. I particularly like the Olive Wood handle used in their Oliva Elite collection.
So, although their main range uses the same handle material, I’d say the exquisite timber used by Messermeister.
I’ll link to the Messermeister Oliva Elite Chef’s knife at the bottom of this article, it’s well worth a look.
Shun vs Messermeister – How much do they cost
Both these brands have wide ranges of knives all at differing price ranges.
To allow for a fairer comparison I’ve categorized three of their major ranges that represent their highest and lowest cost knives.
I’ve tried to compare similar knives, sticking to 8 Inch Chef’s knives or the closest equivalent they have in the range.
In brackets next to the general price range you’ll see the name of the range.
These prices are rough estimates. Prices do change over time but this is intended as a rough guide.
| Brand range | Shun | Messermeister |
| Premium | $200 – $250 (Premier) | $170 – $190 (Oliva Elite) |
| Standard | $160 – $180 (Classic) | $150 – $170 (Meridian Elite) |
| Value | $80 – $100 (Sora) | $35 – $45 (Four Seasons) |
It’s pretty clear that both Shun and Messermeister offer a reasonably similar range of prices for their knives, with Shun knives being slightly more expensive.
Messermeister has a slightly lower price for their more value range but the mid range Classic and Meridian Elite are very similar.
So I would say that which one you pick should be strongly based on your budget, it should be based on what the differences are and what’s more important to your needs.
Let’s look at that next.
Shun vs Messermeister – What is the difference
Now that we have looked at the design, materials, background and price of these brands we can fully understand the difference, and you should be able to make an informed decision on which knife is correct for you.
The main differences between Shun and Messermeister knives is the sharpness and durability, created from the steel used and the overall design of each knife.
| Brand | Main benefits |
| Shun | Sharper, Japanese design |
| Messermeister | More durable, Western design |
The Shun is the sharper blade. It’s a very high Carbon knife at 1.1% Carbon and has great edge retention.
The Shun is also remarkably durable for a high Carbon knife and is certainly one of the most durable Japanese knives available.
However, like most western style knives, Messermeister knives are purpose built for durability so a high Carbon knife is never going to be as durable.
The other major difference is the design. The Messermeister is more of a classic Western design, perfect for rock chopping and very familiar to Western cooks.
The Shun is much more Japanese in its appearance. It’s straight, oval handle is typically Japanese and could take some getting used to, although the blade edge has clearly been curved to suit the rock chopping style Western cooks tend to use.
With that understood, it should now be easy to choose between the two knives.
Shun vs Messermeister – Which is better for you
I have to stress that these are both brilliant knives. There is no clear winner, it’s really down to which one suits your needs the best.
For a busy family kitchen, where multiple people might be using the knife, then I would recommend the Messermeister.
It’s more durable than the Shun. Don’t get me wrong, Shun Classics are very durable knives, but any high Carbon knife just won’t match the Messermeister for durability.
The Messermeister is also a much more classic western Chef’s knife design which is generally preferable if multiple people will be using it.
If sharpness is what you care about, then the Shun is the best choice for you.
The Shun Classic is a brilliant knife. VG-MAX steel is one of my favorites as, even though it can’t quite compare with the durability of Messermeister, it is still extremely durable for Japanese high Carbon steel.
As long as you treat a Shun with a reasonable amount of respect then it won’t rust, chip or snap and you will have a razor sharp edge.
The design of the knife should also be a consideration. Even though they’ve been tailored in many ways for the Western market, Shun Knives are still distinctly Japanese, with that straight, oval shaped handle.
My Shun Recommendation
View the 8-Inch Shun Classic on Amazon (opens new tab)
The Shun Classic 8-Inch is a superb knife and I’d highly recommend it.
The Shun Classic is an absolute masterpiece of merging Japanese and Western influences and I’d highly recommend it to anyone interested in quality knives that are a bit different.
I don’t think you could be disappointed with this knife.
My Messermeister Recommendation
View the 8-Inch Messermeister Oliva Elite on Amazon (opens new tab)
For my Messermeister recommendation I’ve gone with one from their premium collection, especially the Oliva Elite collection.
This knife is stunning. I think it’s the most attractive western style Chef’s knife available.
The Olive Wood handle gives it such a beautiful finish that it really stands out from other knives.
Olive wood won’t be quite as durable as the POM thermoplastic used on the main collections for Messermeister, so you will have to avoid doing things like soaking it in the kitchen sink, because that’s clearly going to warp the wood over time.
But as timber goes, Olive wood is still a good material for knife handles, it’s hard and strong so it will be durable, it’s just hard to match the artificially created durability of substances like POM with natural materials.
It’s a great knife, so if you want to add a bit of beauty to your kitchen then there are few better choices than this Messermeister Oliva Elite.
